In this deeply validating and expansive conversation, Lindsie sits down with Julieta Duvall for part 2 of their conversation to explore how Human Design can become a powerful companion on the PCOS healing journey—not as another set of rules to follow, but as a language for self-trust. Together, they unpack how many women with PCOS aren’t just fighting hormones, but years of conditioning, diet culture, hustle culture, and the pressure to override their bodies in order to “get it right.” Julieta shares how Human Design helped her reconnect with her body’s signals around food, rest, decision-making, relationships, and parenting, and why learning to honor your unique design can reduce stress, burnout, and nervous system dysregulation. This episode invites you to stop forcing yourself into someone else’s framework and start listening to what your body has been communicating all along. You’ll hear practical examples of how understanding your type, strategy, authority, environment, and profile can support sustainable healing, clearer boundaries, and more confident self-advocacy—both in daily life and in healthcare settings. If you’ve ever wondered why the “right plan” never seems to work for you, this conversation offers a gentler, more empowering way forward.
If you’re tired of setting resolutions that don’t last—or feeling like you are the problem when motivation fades—Lindsie is hosting The Anti-Resolution Revolution from January 26–31.
This is a free, collaborative, gamified event where you’ll receive daily recordings straight to your inbox to watch on your own schedule. The goal isn’t another plan—it’s helping you finally understand why resolutions fail year after year and what actually needs to change for sustainable progress.
✨ Click HERE for more info and to register✨
(0:00 - 0:22) It's such a beautiful, it's such a beautiful way to like be confident, almost like, I don't want to say validation, but honestly, it really kind of helped me validate my body because from a very early on, you know, we're not really given the power to like, your body knows you, your body knows what you need. So you should listen. I wasn't really given, I wasn't really trusting my body at all.
(0:22 - 0:31) So I was looking information outside of me. So when human design came along, it was a lot about the reflection. I'm also a six.
(0:31 - 0:43) So in the profile is a role model, but it's there's a lot of reflection. It's the only profile that has like three phases and I'm in the second phase, which is like on the roof, they call it. But it's about reflection.
(0:43 - 1:01) Good Lord. I am just all about just like going deep down the rabbit hole of remembering what was happening and just kind of seeing how that all ties together. But human design kind of helped me validate my feelings from when I knew I need to eat.
(1:01 - 1:20) I needed to eat every couple hours when I knew that I felt different if I just ate once a day or something. And it helps me also see how my children are designed. And again, you know, I love that because we do restrict a lot from children because we think they don't know better, but they do.
(1:20 - 1:49) We are the ones that are so afraid of everything that we just kind of push. And, you know, brings him back to like the early days where you would have to sit at a table at 7 p.m. and eat everything on your plate or else or eat that particular food or else, you know, in our house. It's a little bit more challenging when you're when you're cooking and having foods that, you know, are different for everyone.
(1:49 - 2:03) But it really does create for a safer way to follow the body. Welcome back to PCOS Unfiltered, Nourish, Heal, Thrive. I'm your host, Lindsie.
(2:04 - 2:18) And today's episode is such a good one. If you've ever felt like you're doing all the right things and still wondering, why does this never seem to work for me? Because here's the truth. A lot of women with PCOS aren't just battling hormones.
(2:18 - 2:41) They're battling conditioning, diet culture, hustle culture, the pressure to start over every January with a shiny new resolution, only to feel frustrated behind or burn out a few weeks later. And that's actually the perfect lead in to something I'm really excited about. The Anti-Resolution Revolution happening January 26th through the 31st.
(2:41 - 3:01) This is a free collaborative gamified event where you'll receive daily recording straight to your inbox so you can watch and participate on your own time. No pressure, no life commitments. And the entire goal of this event is to help you finally understand my resolutions fail year after year and what actually needs to change for things to stick.
(3:02 - 3:17) I'll share more about that at the end of the episode. And of course, I'll link everything in the show notes for you. Now, today, I'm joined by Julieta Duvall, a soulful rebel and grounded guide for individuals and families who are dismantling systems that no longer serve them.
(3:18 - 3:56) Julieta is a dedicated mom, entrepreneur and a seasoned flight attendant of nearly 20 years, living a nomadic lifestyle while helping others reconnect to their own inner rhythm and truth. Julieta uses human design as a practical tool for self-trust, helping people understand their unique blueprint for stress, decision making, energy, rest and alignment. And in this conversation, we explore how human design can be a powerful companion on a PCOS healing journey, especially when stress, nervous system dysregulation, people pleasing and over committing are part of the picture.
(3:57 - 4:29) We talk about the basics, your type, strategy and authority, plus how to recognize when you're in alignment versus when you're living in chronic frustration, resentment or burnout. We also go into how your environment, sleep routines and even relationship dynamics can impact your stress and your health and how learning your design can help you advocate for yourself more confidently with providers and in your daily life. Just a reminder, the content shared here on PCOS Unfiltered is for informational and educational purposes only.
(4:30 - 4:50) The views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not intended to serve as medical advice. Always consult with a qualified health care professional before making any changes to your diet, exercise or treatment plan. The information shared is based on personal experience and expert interviews and is not a substitute for professional medical guidance.
(4:51 - 5:13) As always, take what resonates, leave what doesn't and use this episode as an invitation to get curious about what your body has been trying to tell you all along. All right, let's dive in. And then the last piece I'll say about sleep and movement is your profile.
(5:13 - 5:26) The profile is going to be a fraction looking number that you will get once you get your chart. Could be a one, three, I'm a four, six. Do you know your profile? I'm a two, four.
(5:26 - 6:43) OK, I love that because that is when you're a two, the two, it's a hermit and the four is the networker, you know, the your opportunities come from the people that know you. But the two and this goes back to conditioning needs a time of rest. Like there's a hermit period where you go inward because you're like making sense of things. But going inward when you tell people, hey, I'm just kind of like in a quiet mode, they're like, well, what's wrong? What is wrong? And they're like, do people ask you like what you know, how do you experience your your two? Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, and it took me a little while to understand, like even before I knew human design, but for me to understand that I do thrive with my like downtime and quiet time, we joke, but I mean, it's probably true that my husband, he travels quite a bit for work. And now, like with what I do, I am able to go with him, you know, to some places. But I also don't mind when he goes and he travels. And sometimes it's a few days, sometimes it's a week or whatever at a time. And I get my alone time.
(6:43 - 7:08) I get so much done, but I do. I get to, like you said, kind of even just be in my head, just, you know, focus on things. And I think that might be even part of why our relationship works so well, you know, because before, yeah, before human design, like when we first met, we've been together almost nine years, but he was traveling a lot more then and it was, I think it just it worked.
(7:09 - 7:40) Yeah. But it definitely took a certain point just in my life in general for me to see that it's OK to have to have that time and be confident enough to because I think that's especially if you're in a relationship. Yes. You know, being confident in that, that you can say like, OK, I'm I'm good with him going off wherever. And, you know, I get some time to myself and I'm going to enjoy it and make it productive. And yes, because that is exactly when you're two is that quiet time that will propel you into your next step.
(7:40 - 7:48) Yes. When your ideas will come through a little bit more clear, you know, your your intuition will kick in and stuff like that. So it's a little it's a little different.
(7:49 - 8:04) And you're absolutely right. My husband and I have, you know, been together for almost 20 years, but he was my travels that have kept this relationship together because we're both single definition. So we're both very independent people.
(8:04 - 8:17) And the wisdom for us was to know that there is a lot of space between us. So in human design, there's another piece where you can put one chart. It's a connection chart or a penta, they call it.
(8:17 - 8:28) So you can put your chart and, you know, your husband's chart together and you create a different body graph. And then there are different. I haven't heard that one before.
(8:28 - 8:40) It is so juicy. But the names that are like, I think it's nine different ways that you can be. And some of the names are like a little bit like, hmm.
(8:41 - 9:00) But I love the, you know, just the wisdom to kind of see how you are, because a person whenever you're in the presence of another person, their energy will blend with yours and you may highlight different pieces from your design. You're like, oh, I feel different around this person. So those are always ways to explore it.
(9:00 - 9:14) But for us, it was really to know that we have to be intentional about staying connected because there is a lot of space between us and it's not good or bad. It's just what it is. So we are intentional about that.
(9:15 - 9:44) So it goes back to slowing down, you know, finding out what your priorities are and that. And then, you know, the profile, he's also a two and I am a four and six. So it's, you know, so just kind of navigating that, being OK with, you know, with him being and needing to have that slow time and not worry about like, is there something wrong? You know, are we OK? Is this is this normal? It's just normal when he works for you.
(9:45 - 9:55) And I think that's why I love it so, so much. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My stepson, I think it was might have been last year or whatever, but like his girlfriend likes her time, too.
(9:55 - 10:14) I don't know her chart, but but he's one that just always has to be around people like he just wherever he goes, he's got like a posse with him. And this was, you know, from college, like just that's just his energy. And he just yeah, he just always has to be around people.
(10:14 - 10:44) And so he doesn't understand sometimes where, you know, when she needs to be alone. And I like I was there when a comment was made and I was like, yeah, it's like some people just need their downtime, you know, that's fine. But to him, he was like, what is like something wrong? Yes, exactly. And that's the beauty of it, because we're not all the same. And when we treat everyone the same, you know, as far as food and all of that, which leads me to my next point, oh, I'm so excited about that. It's the environment, you know, and in human design.
(10:44 - 11:07) So if you get your body graph, you will see some arrows at the top and there are four of them, two on the left, two on the right. And they are either pointing to the left or to the right. And what those means is the two on the left are going to give you information about this physical vessel, this physical body.
(11:07 - 11:27) And the ones on the right are about your your inner guidance. And it's more abstract than, you know, the body. So the transformation goes from the top left, which is how we ingest, how we receive food and information.
(11:27 - 12:03) And when I work with families about transitioning into home education, this is probably the first piece I'll look at, because it will kind of give me a little bit of information of how the school system does not work for a person when they're designed to be perhaps in a quiet space. Like, so I have I have a calm digestion, which that means it's like I am designed to have meals in a quiet space, in a very calm, cool and collective. And I absolutely love that.
(12:03 - 12:13) I love eating by myself. I love being at a restaurant by myself in the furthest table you could possibly imagine. Yes, I love being in that in that space.
(12:13 - 12:19) And I have walked out of places that are too busy for me. But my kids are different. They're the opposite of me.
(12:20 - 12:31) They're called they have a nervous digestion, it's called and nervous. It doesn't mean like it just means busy. So they are OK with more sound, with more people, you know.
(12:31 - 12:43) So and again, this is all experimentation. I've experimented with both being around their environment, what feels good for them. And sometimes it feels good to me, too, but it doesn't always.
(12:44 - 13:06) So those pieces, when you start looking at the variables, I think in human design, those ones are a little bit like further down the line. But if you're if you're for children, I think it can be helpful at the beginning, like, you know, when they're like toddlers and, you know, you're starting to look into other things. I think it can be helpful to do that.
(13:08 - 13:24) But for adults, sometimes we're so conditioned to eat one way. And I think I remember in your podcast, you talked about fasting and the yo-yo dieting. So that is like I am not a fasting type of person because I have a busy mind.
(13:24 - 13:39) So I'm designed to be eating every couple hours. And I can feel that, you know, like the shaking. I think you mentioned the shaking and how I feel after I eat something, you know, to start paying attention to the signs is exactly.
(13:39 - 13:58) And if you kind of pair that with like human design a little bit, you're like, oh, this works, this doesn't. It's just a beautiful complement of, you know, like how you feel in your soul, but also the body, like because the body talks to you all the time, like it's talking all the time. Oh, yeah. (13:58 - 14:03) We just have to listen. Yep. That's one thing I say so much.
(14:04 - 14:12) Yeah. So I just got back actually from Michigan with my my little nieces. I was up there actually for two weeks, you know, for the holiday and everything.
(14:12 - 14:21) But my oldest niece has like an alternating appetite. Oh, yeah. But yeah.
(14:21 - 14:31) So some days it's, you know, it's feast or famine, basically. Like some days she just doesn't really want much. And then other days she's like nonstop.
(14:31 - 14:44) I'm like, where are you putting all of that? But but they they do. My brother and my sister in law are teaching and I have a younger niece, too, but they're teaching. Yes.
(14:44 - 14:50) Yes. Listen to your body like that's fine. And then they're also not worried about it because the kids are so active.
(14:50 - 15:00) They don't have devices. They are constantly go, go, go, you know, doing something. So they're also not, you know, trying to restrict anything by any means.
(15:01 - 15:07) And they understand that, OK, someday she's going to eat a lot. Someday she's going to breakfast. Some days she's not going to want much at all.
(15:07 - 15:27) And that's fine. Yes. It's such a beautiful it's such a beautiful way to like be confident, almost like I don't want to say validation, but honestly, it really kind of helped me validate my body because from a very early on, you know, we're not really given the power to like your body knows your body knows what you need.
(15:27 - 15:34) So you should listen. I wasn't really given I wasn't really trusting my body at all. So I was looking information outside of me.
(15:35 - 15:44) So when human design came along, it was a lot about the reflection. I'm also a sick. So in the profile is a role model, but it's there's a lot of reflection.
(15:44 - 16:13) I'm it's the only profile that has like three faces and I'm in the second phase, which is like on the roof, they call it. But it's about reflection. Good Lord. I am just all about just like going deep down the rabbit hole of remembering what was happening and just kind of seeing how that all ties together. But human design kind of helped me validate my feelings from when I knew I need to eat. I needed to eat every couple hours.
(16:13 - 16:30) When I knew that I felt different if I just ate once a day or something. And it helps me also see how my children are designed. And again, you know, I love that because we do restrict a lot from children because we think they don't know better, but they do.
(16:30 - 17:04) We are the ones that are so afraid of everything that we just kind of push. And, you know, brings him back to like the early days where you would have to sit at a table at 7 p.m. and eat everything on your plate or else or eat that particular food or else, you know, in our house, it's a little bit more challenging when you're when you're cooking and having foods that, you know, are different for everyone. But it really does create for a safer way to follow the body.
(17:04 - 17:15) And that really is what I thrive to hear, too. It's like, listen to your body. What is your body telling you? Do you feel it? My both my children have sacral authority, so they have an immediate yes or no.
(17:15 - 17:25) And I've been working because I'm not like that. I have to take time. I'm you know, so I I usually like I ask them again, like, are you sure? And I'm like, oh, my God, stop it, Julia.
(17:25 - 17:35) Like they do know it's it's a clear yes or no. It's fast. I think you have a sacral authority, too, right? I do. Yeah. So it's fast, right? Yeah. Yeah.
(17:35 - 18:05) And then, you know, there's still some things as an adult where you still just need to do them, even though you don't, you know, want to necessarily. But, you know, like social events, for example, you know, I'm not one that wants to be in a big room full of people like I love connecting, you know, I love networking, connecting, but I don't want to be in the big room full of people. But there are some times where you have to go to things like that as an adult.
(18:05 - 18:12) But yes, otherwise, it's if it's not an immediate yes or no for me, then. Yeah. You just need to move on.
(18:12 - 18:15) And I look at. Yeah, my children are like that. I'm not like that.
(18:15 - 18:34) So I am, you know, like trying to learn to respect that quick yes or no and not have to second guess it because I have to wait. I mean, you know, for some decisions, I sit on it for a couple of months until it kind of keeps showing up to me. I'm like, OK, I think I'm just going to go ahead and and clarity is never really 100 percent there.
(18:34 - 19:12) So but yeah, so the variables as far as the environment, you know, and the so that the ones on the left are to the body. And I think those are great pieces to start when you're starting on this healing journey to kind of connect. You know, those are those pieces, like how you felt, what human design says about your digestion, going back to your memories, because I have found that all of that, it's you go back all the way to childhood, all the way to childhood about your nervous system and, you know, your family life, your parents.
(19:13 - 19:39) And when I found out my parents human design, it made a lot of sense. So it really creates a different narrative for you that you can either keep, which if you want to, like, that's OK, or you can just release it and find and find something else, a fortune, a path for yourself, because. I don't think this life is supposed to be hard.
(19:40 - 19:43) Yeah. Yes. Yeah, I agree.
(19:44 - 20:06) Yeah. So, yeah, those are the variables. Awesome. As we kind of start to wrap up, I love this question. How can you use this to kind of find the right provider? Yes. So this is something I've I think I got really lucky because I got introduced to human design by someone, a reflector.
(20:06 - 20:27) A reflector is like less than one percent of the population, and they're here to kind of sample everything that's happening. So I got introduced by by two people that came, you know, into human design from the home education perspective. So I was already like I was really, really blessed with that, I think.
(20:28 - 20:46) But as you start looking into it. So once you get your chart. I think the biggest piece is to find people that make you feel expansive, that make you feel that you are the primary person that you should listen to.
(20:46 - 21:04) When someone comes at you and says, like, you should only listen to me. I did a reading for someone who was told that they were their throat was undefined and they said you should never you should never do a podcast. I think they told her because your throat is undefined.
(21:04 - 21:14) And it really made a negative experience. Like he felt it was negative to say that. And she stopped doing what she wanted to do.
(21:14 - 21:32) And it was just, you know, this information is a tool. It is I see it as practical and empowering. But if you find someone that says you are not designed to do so, you should not.
(21:32 - 21:41) I really those are red flags, though, because it may resonate, may resonate or it may not. And that's OK. But you are the.
(21:43 - 21:58) Biggest you're your biggest advocate, you know, when someone tells you, no, don't do this, you're like, well, let me think about this. So I think when you find a practitioner, it's like making it simple, accessible and empowering. That's my biggest piece.
(21:59 - 22:22) If he doesn't feel empowering from the first interaction, then those are probably like, you know, kind of like step back and and listen to that because you're coming in, you know, at a vulnerable state, right? You're trying to make change. You want to be better. You have certain goals and you're working through it and you're making the step to to to to do this.
(22:23 - 22:38) But again, you are your biggest advocate. So empowering just like someone that makes you feel like you are the boss. I love that. So yeah. So that's it, though, really. But there are you know, there's there's a lot of information out there.
(22:38 - 22:49) I mean, I tried to be like, you know, people use it for that. It's OK, you know, to get started. But start with the basics, your type, your strategy and your authority.
(22:49 - 24:06) And you will go a long way with that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just like I said, knowing what I know, you know, I think it's been helpful throughout this conversation for sure. But I mean, but that's always my goal is just is is giving women one more, you know, opening their eyes to one more avenue to help them heal and feel better, you know, feel better and whatever that looks like for them. Yes. And then, yes, you can take that to any type of, you know, practitioner. Absolutely. But I think just also it ties into being an advocate for yourself. So whether that means learning about something like human design, you know, just learning more about PCOS and how you can then take that to, you know, whoever you need to to actually have a more meaningful conversation and advocate for yourself. Yes, absolutely, though, because I think we we have been conditioned to think that life should be hard, but I honestly don't think it should be hard at all. And it took me a while because, oh, Lord, if you only knew. But yeah, I mean, this I mean, this the conversation about human design for me is like that's why I love it, because it gave me different language. And, you know, some people say, well, aren't you replacing one bad label for a good label? But I'm like you made me open up to different pieces.
(24:06 - 24:14) It made me open up to different layers of healing that I needed. But I couldn't have gotten there if I did not have human design. I do know that much.
(24:15 - 24:28) Like I was at a pivotal point when I found it as to whether home education was for us. Like I truly was in a in a bad place with that. And without human design, we would not be here.
(24:29 - 24:54) I'll tell you, we would not be here like that. Life was hard for me. Yeah. So but I had a lot of healing to do. But in order to access the steeper layers of the mind and the unconscious and the nervous system, I had to I have to had a friend, have a friend, you know, and I went to therapy. But yeah, human design kind of was my buddy on that.
(24:54 - 24:58) So, yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, going back to what you were saying, you know, life shouldn't be hard.
(24:58 - 25:31) I mean, it's almost like all these things, technology wise, you know, have come into our lives to try to make things easier. But in a lot of ways, I feel like they just complicate things. Yeah. More. And almost kind of make things more difficult and in some areas. Yeah. And this is where I think human design, yeah, can play a role in kind of simplifying some of that when you just kind of learn more about what what aligns with what you, you know, you want and how you work. Yeah. Yes, absolutely.
(25:31 - 25:55) Because all the technology, when you don't know how what works for you and how it feels when something works for you, we get definitely lost in the sea of options and things to do and rituals to follow. But I think human design gives you discernment to find out quickly. Choose. OK, this is for me. That's not for me. And then move on.
(25:55 - 26:10) Not feel guilty about it because we're not supposed to do all the things, you know, and stuff like that. So, yes, I hope this is helpful for people because it truly has changed my life. You guys, I would not be here.
(26:10 - 26:14) I can tell you that, you know, without it. So I love it. Yes, I love it.
(26:14 - 26:22) Thank you so much. Yes, thank you. So last question is, how can people connect with you, get in touch with you? All those things.
(26:23 - 26:33) Yeah. So you can go to our website, the unschooling lifestyle dot com. My work centers around, you know, home education, alternative education.
(26:33 - 26:40) I do readings for people. I mostly use it with families. But I, you know, I do readings like across the board.
(26:40 - 26:57) And you can find us on our website and Instagram and or sign up for a newsletter, come and say hello. And yeah, I'd love to have you. Awesome. Awesome. Of course, I'll link all of that in the show notes as well. But thank you so much again for being here.
(26:58 - 27:01) And this was an amazing conversation. I love it. I mean, we could have probably kept going.
(27:01 - 27:06) Yes. Yes, I know. I was trying to keep myself on track, though, so I think I did OK.
(27:07 - 27:15) I hope so. But yes, thank you so much for having me and for giving me the space to share this because I truly love it. So, yes, thank you.
(27:18 - 27:24) OK, I loved that conversation. And if you're listening, thinking, wait, this explains me. You are not alone.
(27:25 - 27:51) One of the biggest things I'm taking away from today is that healing gets lighter when you stop forcing yourself into someone else's framework, because so many of us, especially women navigating PCOS, have been conditioned to believe we have to do more, push harder, follow the perfect plan and somehow override our bodies to get results. But what Julietta brought to the table today is such a powerful reminder that your body isn't the problem. It's the messenger.
(27:52 - 28:24) We talked about using human design as an experiment, not a rulebook, and how learning your type, strategy and authority can help you recognize when you're in alignment, when you're overcommitting and what kinds of decisions or environments quietly raise your stress without you even realizing it. And I love the way she tied it back to nervous system regulation, stored stress and the reality of what works for one woman with PCOS may not work for another because we're not all built the same. If you want to connect with Julieta to learn more, I'll link everything for you in the show notes.
(28:25 - 28:47) And lastly, let's circle back to the anti-resolution revolution. If you're tired of setting news resolutions that don't last, if you've ever felt like you are the problem because motivation fades or life gets in the way, this event is for you. From January 26th through the 31st, you'll receive free daily recordings delivered straight to your inbox so you can watch on your own schedule.
(28:48 - 29:02) And the goal isn't to give you another plan to follow. It's to help you finally understand why resolutions fail every year in a fun, gamified way and what actually needs to change for sustainable progress to happen. You can register for free.
(29:02 - 29:12) I'll have the link waiting for you in the show notes. All right. I'm sending you so much love, and I'll see you in the next episode of PCOS Unfiltered. Nourish. Feel. Thrive.