What if struggling to follow through with healthy habits isn’t a sign that you need to try harder? In Part 1 of this conversation on PCOS Unfiltered: Nourish, Heal, Thrive, I’m joined by Amy Jones, a certified functional nutrition practitioner, certified ADHD life coach, and former teacher who was diagnosed with ADHD at 45. Amy’s own experience of spending years navigating anxiety, depression, overwhelm, and burnout before finally receiving an ADHD diagnosis gives her a unique perspective on something so many women experience: knowing what you “should” be doing for your health but struggling to actually do it. We talk about why ADHD can look different in women, why it may go undiagnosed for years, and the emerging research exploring a possible connection between ADHD and PCOS/PMOS. We also dive into blood sugar, insulin resistance, energy, hormones, executive function, and why another complicated meal plan may be the last thing an overwhelmed woman needs. One of my favorite concepts Amy shares is the idea of accessible nourishment. Instead of asking: Why can’t I just follow the plan? What if we asked: How can I make nourishing my body actually work for my brain, my schedule, and my life? Because sometimes the answer isn’t more discipline. Sometimes it’s making healthy choices easier to access.
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This week, I want you to notice ONE place where supporting your health consistently feels harder than it needs to be.
Maybe it’s:
❤️ Making breakfast before your day gets busy
❤️ Remembering to eat before you're starving
❤️ Deciding what to make for dinner
❤️ Preparing food when you're already exhausted
❤️ Getting back into your routine after traveling
❤️ Moving your body when your energy is low
❤️ Feeling overwhelmed by too many choices
Instead of asking:
Why can't I just do this?
Try asking:
What is making this difficult and how could I make it easier?
Amy Jones is a certified functional nutrition practitioner, certified ADHD life coach, and certified teacher.
After nearly 20 years in education and receiving her own ADHD diagnosis at 45, Amy now helps neurodivergent and overwhelmed adults better understand the connection between nutrition, energy, executive function, hormones, and the realities of following through with healthy habits.
Her approach focuses on making nourishment more accessible rather than simply giving people another plan they're expected to follow perfectly.
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(0:00) I think I didn't realize that until I started working with the ADHD population and how many (0:08) of us are presenting with this or presenting with potential PMOS. There are some studies (0:15) that suggest women with PMOS may have higher ADHD symptom scores than women without PCOS (0:22) because there is an overlap as well. And there's also some research looking at children of mothers (0:29) with PMOS that shows a higher likelihood of ADHD.Welcome back to PCOS Unfiltered, (0:39) where we help you understand what your body has been trying to tell you all along. I'm your host, (0:44) Lindsay, nurse turned health coach, two-time author, and your body wisdom guide. Today's (0:49) conversation is such an important one because we're talking about something that doesn't get (0:53) discussed enough in the health and wellness world.Knowing what to do and actually being able to do (0:59) it are two very different things. My guest today is Amy Jones, a certified functional nutrition (1:05) practitioner, certified ADHD life coach, and certified teacher. After nearly 20 years in (1:12) education and receiving her own ADHD diagnosis at 45, Amy now helps neurodivergent and overwhelmed (1:20) adults understand the connection between food, energy, executive function, hormones, and real-life (1:26) follow-through.We talk about ADHD in women, burnout, blood sugar, and insulin resistance, (1:32) the potential overlap with PCOS and PMOS, and why another complicated meal plan may be the last thing (1:40) an overwhelmed woman needs. I especially love Amy's idea of accessible nourishment. Instead of asking (1:46) why you can't follow the plan, asking how we can make supporting your body actually work for your (1:53) brain, your schedule, and your life.And if conversations like this are what you've been (1:58) looking for, come join us inside my free Healthy Ever After community. It's where we take these (2:03) conversations beyond the podcast with body wisdom tips, recipes, resources, and practical ways to (2:09) support yourself in everyday life. You'll find the link in the show notes.As always, this podcast is (2:14) for educational and informational purposes only and is not considered medical advice. Please work (2:20) with your healthcare provider regarding your individual health needs. Now go ahead, grab your (2:26) favorite beverage, settle in, and let's get started.Here is my conversation with Amy Jones. (2:39) Hello. Welcome.Welcome to PCOS Unfiltered and welcome to Amy. I am super, super excited to have (2:47) you here. So thank you so, so much.And while this may not be a completely dedicated PCOS episode, (2:55) I feel like there's still going to be a lot of, a lot of things that are going to overlap. And I feel (2:59) like there's going to be so many good things to pull from, from your experience. And so let's just (3:07) kind of start there.You know, why, why are you here? What's, you know, we can go into what you (3:14) do, but, but just tell us about your, you know, your experience with, with everything. (3:20) Yeah, I know. I know.I'm like, I know. So I was a teacher for almost 20 years, high school and (3:32) ended up totally burning out. Decided that I needed to always really been into health and (3:37) wellness and I needed to do something else to survive.And especially because I had just had (3:43) two children a year apart, not too, not too long ago from that time and really loved nutrition and, (3:51) and, you know, movement and just health and wellness in general. And so I went back to school (3:55) to really dive into my functional nutrition certification, which I loved every minute. (4:02) And once I started to do that, I really saw such a huge change in my kids' behavior, definitely.(4:11) And then my youngest was diagnosed with ADHD and ASD when he was around six and my oldest with (4:19) sensory processing disorder. And I was like, wow, this is, you know, there's such a huge part of (4:27) nutrition that as is overlapped with this. And we're going to talk about that too later on with (4:32) PMOS, but and its importance for it.And so that's kind of where I headed with my business when I (4:39) graduated. And then I realized, wait a second, there's something missing here, especially with (4:44) this particular population that I'm focusing on. And so I went back to school again to become a (4:50) certified ADHD life coach, because I could see there was something between knowing what to do (4:57) in terms of, you know, the nutrition and what nutrients to really emphasize, but then how do (5:04) we get them in you? That was, that was such a huge challenge.And so that's when I started to blend (5:09) that. And that's also where my, my education background really has come in handy. That was (5:14) something that I was always looking for as a teacher was how do I support this particular (5:18) child to have access to whatever the curriculum, right? And then I was diagnosed with ADHD because (5:26) it all came together and made sense.And, but before that it was, you know, I was had anxiety, (5:32) I was depressed, I had BPD, I was too sensitive, I was all, you know, just not coping. And that's (5:39) where that burnout piece came in. So this is all been kind of this very full circle.(5:46) Yeah, just, you know, I'd be definitely with my heart always. And how can we figure this out (5:51) together? And how can we support each other, especially in the ADHD and neurodivergent world? (5:56) But I think this applies to everyone. Absolutely.So yeah, that's sort of where I come from. That's (6:05) how I came into nutrition. And then the coaching piece has been, I think I do more coaching than (6:09) we even do the nutrition, to be honest with you.Yeah, that's where I'm coming from. (6:14) Yeah, that's how I am too. Like I'm discovering it's a lot more, right? It's a lot more coaching, (6:19) you know, like we all know, like, pretty much, I mean, what to eat, what not to eat, like, you know, (6:24) but it's just being able to maintain those habits and, you know, make a lifestyle out of it and (6:31) understand why you should or shouldn't be doing certain things or eating certain things.Like, (6:37) yeah, I get you there. Yeah. Tell us more about your experience of getting diagnosed as well, (6:44) because I know that was, you told me when we first talked, right? Like that was a big (6:49) struggle.You had to really advocate for yourself. Yes. And I think, you know, definitely it's not (6:57) necessarily unique to women, but I think it's unique to women also at the same time, because (7:04) I struggled from my, you know, from my teens.I remember having panic attacks and feeling (7:09) overwhelmed and not knowing where to start and not just feeling like what was wrong with me all (7:17) the time. And then that's when I had a, early twenties was my anxiety diagnosis and it just (7:22) kept, that loop just kept going. Like, what's wrong with me? I'm anxious.I don't know where (7:27) to start. I can't prioritize. And then the depression piece came in.So I was sort of in (7:32) and out and had to take time off of work and then went back again. And then I had to take more time (7:40) off work and then went back again. It was never, you know, it was just was never recognized that (7:47) there was a pattern here that, you know, any medication that you could throw at was not (7:54) helping.Right. You know, it helped me sort of manage-ish and get through the day, but I was (8:01) not thriving. I was not feeling like I was a creative human who was contributing and supportive (8:07) to others.I was just always trying to survive the day, survive life. And so when my son was (8:14) diagnosed and, you know, we went through with our pediatrician and just kind of like ticked off the (8:19) list and I'm by, you know, even then it's still not comprehensive in terms of, you know, what ADHD (8:26) actually is in terms of the documentation and looking for those symptoms. But it's just like, (8:35) wow, this is me.And that's where that epiphany happened. And I had to push (8:45) so hard. So I brought it up to my own psychiatrist, psychologist, and it was just, (8:51) they were like, no, no, no, no.It's anxiety. It's depression. We just need to throw more (8:56) meds at it or try something different.And it was so frustrating. I think it took, (9:02) gosh, at least two years of me pushing really hard to get someone to actually acknowledge it. (9:09) And I think it was also interesting because in that process, you have to really look back (9:16) and to speak to your parents and speak to, you know, other people who were part of your life (9:22) early on to show that pattern or to look for evidence of that pattern.And when I did that, (9:29) it didn't check off what was on the DSM-5, right? It's like emotional dysregulation. I was (9:36) a daydreamer. I wasn't acting out or jumping around in class, but I loved, I needed to move (9:41) my body, that's for sure.But there was, you know, a whole host of these things that aren't on that, (9:49) right? Especially for girls and for women. And so I think that's what made it really difficult (9:55) for my psychiatrist and psychologist to say, yeah, this is probably something else we need (10:02) to be thinking about and give that diagnosis. Yeah, yeah.I mean, there's, yeah, there's, (10:08) there is a lot that can go into it, right? Like, so when we, again, when we first talked, (10:13) we talked about the recent name change, you know, from PCOS to PMOS. And I know you kind of said (10:19) you think there might be more, you know, more to that, right? Can you tell us more, like, (10:24) you know, what have you discovered might be some of the driving factors or what might be missing in (10:30) just that name alone or that diagnosis, you know, alone? Yeah. Yeah.And I think, you know, going (10:36) back to my own history, I really struggled with my period and menstruation when I, from, you know, (10:43) the first time I had it was 13 years old and I think it was 16. I think I spent half of my life. (10:48) So every two weeks I was okay.And then I would spend two weeks bleeding really heavily (10:54) or just be sporadic and all over the place. But the pain was really intense. And I don't (10:59) remember any other symptoms that would have been associated with PMOS at this point.But (11:04) first thing my doctor did when it just got to a point where I was like, I can't function, (11:09) they just slapped the birth control pill on it. And that helped, totally helped. Yep.But that's, (11:14) nobody talked about, you know, then PCOS to me about that. And I mean, I don't know enough. (11:21) Obviously I can't diagnose myself, but I think I'm very suspect that, that that is an issue.(11:27) And I think I didn't realize that until I started working with the ADHD population and how many (11:35) of us are presenting with this or presenting with potential PMOS or suspected in that sense. (11:46) And there's not a lot of science around this, right? It's coming, but again, we know that (11:53) women are not necessarily a huge topic for scientific studies. So I can't really say (12:00) the exact percentage of women with ADHD also have PMOS or vice versa because that research (12:06) isn't strong enough yet, but we definitely, and I've definitely been witness to this, (12:11) but we have those signals, right? There are some studies that suggest women with PMOS may have (12:18) higher ADHD symptom scores than women without PCOS because there is an overlap as well.(12:26) And there was also some research looking at children of mothers with PMOS (12:30) that shows a higher likelihood of ADHD. So there's some science, but it's not, (12:39) you know, it's not really what we're talking about here, but I feel like I've actually witnessed it, (12:43) right? So it just doesn't give us the full answer, but there's definitely a pattern. (12:49) Yeah.And it makes sense to me in terms of that. (12:51) Oh yeah, totally. I mean, I think that's even part of why I have felt (12:56) called to this community because when I was working in the ER, I would see women coming in (13:03) with chronic PCOS, PMOS symptoms, but it was more than that, right? It wasn't just like, (13:11) oh, I'm having pelvic pain.I think a cyst might've burst, whatever. They were exhibiting (13:16) a lot of the symptoms of depression. They were withdrawn, more than likely dealing with a lot (13:24) of body image issues because of probably the elevated androgens and stuff.And they were (13:33) dealing with acne and being overweight and all that stuff. And I would even see how the doctors (13:37) would treat them too, because I think the doctors didn't know what to do with them. Yes, again, (13:43) it's ER.I've said that before. So we would only do so much, but I feel like they would just (13:49) totally disregard them a lot of the times too. And then that just added more to it.So yeah, (13:58) I feel like talking about, like you said, there's not enough research, right? There aren't enough (14:04) studies. And hopefully we do get to that point because I do think there's overlap with a lot of (14:10) other conditions even too. I've had somebody talk about fibromyalgia and PCOS before as well.(14:17) And ADHD. Yes. And ADHD too.That's a big, huge one. That's a whole other episode. (14:24) Well, obviously you've done one already, but yes.Absolutely. (14:29) It makes you wonder, is it the insulin resistance component that now they're seeing with PMOS as a (14:37) driver more, the metabolic component? I know, again, going back to fibromyalgia, (14:43) it can also be how we perceive things up here and maybe even how past traumas or childhood (14:51) experiences are now playing a role. And specifically for that, in that case, it's how (14:56) they perceive pain.Apparently that's come about as a big driver and everything too. (15:02) Yeah. Is there anything that sticks out to you as to why they might be overlapping? (15:09) Yeah, definitely.I think there's so many pieces that definitely overlap from what I see. Definitely (15:16) in ADHD, our metabolic, I don't want to say capacity, but just our system in general is, (15:24) I mean, not necessarily for everyone, but can be very inconsistent. So that just means your (15:30) energy production is not necessarily consistent.We see this a lot in neurodivergence (15:37) and there's lots of different reasons for that. And we don't need to dive into too much of that (15:41) right now, but that just means if you think about it, we're not necessarily getting the (15:46) nutrients we need to our brains, right? The actual energy and it's inconsistent. So sometimes it (15:54) comes in bursts and it depends on what we're doing and what our emotions are as well in order to (15:59) access that system.This is where movement comes in because sometimes we need to move in order to (16:04) access and to actually get the energy into our cells. So there often is, because of that, (16:11) evidence of insulin resistance in neurodivergence for sure. And the PMOS overlap we know is (16:19) enormous, right? That's the first thing I tackle, especially if someone is suspecting or is (16:25) diagnosed with PMOS and has ADHD, like ADHD is all about.That's all we do is balance our (16:32) blood sugar and try to support insulin resistance in any way we can. But that's, I think, (16:38) the biggest one. But because of that metabolic inconsistency, that's often where we see irregular (16:45) cycles.Often PMS is really intense, cravings, fatigue, oh my gosh, especially at the end of the (16:55) day. Higher inflammatory markers is another one too. And then that emotional irritability because (17:03) of the insulin resistance.So we're having these massive blood sugar swings. So we're (17:10) spiking and dropping and spiking. And that is emotional dysregulation, which is a hallmark of (17:16) ADHD that it's, I think, now finally coming out into the open.People are really talking about (17:21) that a lot more in the sphere I work in because it's linked to insulin resistance. Finally, (17:29) we're getting there. But there is, I don't know if all of those things I said are overlapped (17:36) in terms of your point of view as well.(17:39) For sure. Yeah. I mean, I think we could bring in the gut discussion, which again, (17:45) that could be another episode.The nervous system, where the stressors are coming from. (17:55) I'm curious for you, what's the first step with your clients when tackling, (18:00) you know, like you said, they're presenting with some signs of insulin resistance, high (18:06) inflammation and all of that stuff. What's your first step in tackling that? (18:10) Yeah.So what we usually do is we kind of map out the body. So we're looking at energy levels (18:20) throughout the day. We're looking at definitely blood sugar.So that metabolic component. We're (18:29) that nervous system component. Appetite, hormones, like just look inflammation.We're looking at (18:36) nutrient status, everything. What medications that are on, all of the stuff. Looking at that, (18:43) sort of looking at from the point of view of where, what could you be missing possibly here (18:48) that we can top you up with so that we can sort of focus in terms of our next steps.(18:53) And often that's where we would focus before I, you know, figured out that there's this gap (18:58) between knowing and doing. And then so now what we do is we really sit down and map out the day, (19:06) the week, the rhythms that they go through. So when actually they're eating, when they're not, (19:13) and what might be going on around that.Often this sort of energy crash I'll hear over and (19:19) again. Living on caffeine also I hear a lot of. And then just the fatigue, like we're trying, (19:27) especially if you're, you have a family, we're trying to feed our children.But we're in, (19:32) you know, a mode of depleted energy and we actually need to eat too. But we don't often (19:37) do that enough for ourselves. So that's kind of where we go.And then usually what I see in terms (19:45) of where like the chain breaks in terms of eating consistently is often, especially with ADHD, (19:55) is just noticing hunger. Often we don't even notice. And especially if someone is taking (20:01) any medication around for ADHD, that is something that becomes our interoceptive (20:07) awareness is already a little bit dulled or not necessarily as easy to access or understand.(20:12) So that's a big problem. Sometimes it's like, I can't stop what I'm doing right now. I'll do that (20:18) in a minute.Just even deciding what am I going to eat, opening the fridge and standing there (20:24) and not having it, or it's not easy. It's not easily accessible. It's not quick enough.Like (20:30) I'd have to cook it or prepare it. And then you got to clean it all up, right? And then you can (20:34) do it all again the next day when you're making. So all of that can be so much work.And the same (20:42) with PMOS, with the insulin resistance piece, if you're crashing, you don't have capacity in (20:51) your brain to actually put something together or think about it. So I really kind of go through (20:56) executive function and figure out where someone is breaking down because sometimes it can be memory. (21:01) Sometimes it can be decision overload, decision fatigue.So then how are we going to support you (21:07) with that? If it's appetite is low, then we're thinking about, okay, we got to front load (21:13) the majority of our nutrients before either your medication kicks in or that your day gets too (21:19) busy. So at least we know you've got something in the morning that is good and balanced (21:23) to keep you going, right? Even things like cleanup. I think everyone underestimates cleanup.(21:30) Oh, yeah. (21:30) We figure out ways to lower the dish load. We're just using one pan or we're just throwing something (21:36) in the oven and it's easy on those days that we need to cook or whatever it might be, right? (21:43) Yeah.(21:43) So that's kind of like the way that we work, but it's so unique to everyone because (21:48) our schedules are different. Our routines are different. And those routines actually shift (21:52) throughout the year, right? I know this is something that I'm trying to map out now too, (21:57) because my boys are so busy after school and I'm just like, oh my God, I didn't think about this.(22:03) And then that's where we're trying to remap as soon as that spring transition, (22:08) sort of winter to spring transition happens with sports. The whole thing changes. You just got to (22:13) throw it all out and start over.So that's sort of what I'm always listening for. (22:20) Yeah. Yeah.Yeah. I mean, that's a good point too, because I feel like with kids, especially (22:26) throughout the year, they're, like you said, different activities. And then of course, (22:31) the summer they're home.So that's probably a whole other big transition. But even if you don't (22:39) have kids too, there's so much to take into consideration because the days are getting (22:47) longer and then they're getting shorter and you don't have as much daylight and you don't (22:51) have as much energy, right? To do some of those things that you might have to do when it's prime (22:58) daytime hours and everything. So yeah.Or if you're traveling, right? If travel, (23:03) regular travel is part of your career, that is a whole other thing. And I don't think (23:09) enough of us really appreciate that. I'm working with someone right now and that's part of what (23:14) we're building her is how to support her when she is traveling.And literally most of it is just, (23:22) I'm like, just enjoy the wonderful food wherever you are. And then let's talk about the transition (23:28) back and how we get you back in and how do we pull apart some of that food noise because (23:34) it's this constant, but I should, but I should. And it's like, well, how about we just make sure (23:40) you're eating regularly first and then we can look at that.So I think it's more, (23:45) that's a huge piece of this, right? We all have the shoulds in our head too. (23:49) And that stresses you out more because again, like what I was saying, we know what we should (23:56) and shouldn't eat, right? But yeah, when that just is in your head constantly, that's just (24:02) adding to more stress that you're probably already dealing with because you're traveling, (24:06) because your career is demanding, because you have kids and a family, whatever it might be. (24:10) And then of course, in addition to all the screens and everything else going on and the foods, (24:16) right? So yeah, same thing.It's like, let's just kind of get rid of that and do the best you can. (24:25) Don't overly stress yourself out and we'll get to that point to where you can manage it all. (24:33) Going back to what you were saying too about kind of mapping out the body, mapping out their day.(24:41) I love that because it just brings awareness to those patterns. (24:45) Right? And sometimes that's all people need. I don't know if you see it, but sometimes that's (24:50) the big kick in the butt that they even need to have that moment of like, oh my gosh, I'm noticing (24:57) this.So I love that. So I mean, we've talked, I feel like maybe you've kind of answered this too, (25:08) but because these women, especially, are going undiagnosed for years. I mean, (25:20) I don't know if you want to dive in deeper as to why that might be.I feel like we kind of (25:24) touched on that a little bit, but then what are you seeing by the time that they do kind of get (25:28) to you? Is there anything that's standing out? Because they've been dismissed, been undiagnosed (25:34) probably for years. Maybe they finally got that diagnosis or maybe they're suspecting it and (25:37) coming to you. So what are you seeing? A lot of burnout, for sure.Because, (25:47) yeah, especially with ADHD. I think there's probably been so much masking their whole life (25:52) and I think anyone with ADHD knows that it takes, may not know, but can feel it, that it is so (26:00) metabolically demanding. It takes so much energy to move through a world where things, (26:08) we have to adjust ourselves constantly in order to do the thing we are supposed to do, (26:14) whatever that means, without support.Or we just have to sit and manage our overwhelm. (26:24) I'm thinking about even my own children. They get handed a test that is like 16 pages long, (26:32) a math test, and just go and you're just supposed to manage.I think a lot of women just did that, (26:39) right? Instead of really having the opportunity to take a step back. Okay, what is a better way (26:45) to approach this, right? In terms of bringing down our nervous system in order to move through the (26:52) world so that we're not constantly burning through all of the nutrients we need to make (27:00) energy, like bees and magnesium and some of those other things. But I think that's a really (27:07) important piece.And so that burnout has been either like this under, it's almost like chronic (27:14) inflammation, like this underlying, we have this low-lying inflammation our entire life (27:20) because we are burning through nutrients, we're exhausted, and we're just trying to do the shoulds (27:26) all the time. But I should be able to do this, and why can't I do this? So I do see a lot of that. (27:33) I think a lot of that just has to do with just not really understanding, (27:38) you know, especially the generation when I was growing up.So I'm 48 now, and (27:43) the girls weren't diagnosed with ADHD then, right? It was boys. It was always boys, (27:49) and it was never suspected. And I was a creator, like so creative, but daydreamed a ton.(27:59) There were so many other, and emotional regulation like did not happen for most of my life. I really (28:04) struggled. But I also, when I had to, I pulled it into me.And then that's where my nervous system (28:11) dysregulation happened. And a lot of those, that self-talk became really not helpful. And so I (28:22) think it's been such a gift to have had my child diagnosed.I think of it as a gift because now we (28:29) know what to do. Now we know how we can support, and we get to go on that journey and discover (28:34) what that looks like for him, for both my kids, and also now for me. Now I get to figure that out too.(28:40) And that's wonderful. But I think it's, and I think it's, that's why I think it's so important, (28:47) that diagnosis, especially for girls and women. Because where that DSM-5 that we're (28:54) ticking off the list of all of those symptoms does not include emotional regulation.(28:58) And I think that's one of the biggest pieces to understanding it in girls. (29:06) And it's directly correlated, again, with this insulin resistance or inconsistent energy, (29:12) blood sugar fluctuations. And we can figure it out.You know what I mean? Not to cure it, (29:18) but to help support it, right? So yeah, I don't know where I went with that. (29:24) But that's okay. I don't know if I answered your question.(29:27) No, no, that's good. Like, yeah, that's good, you know, pointing out some of those signs and (29:32) symptoms that for anybody listening, you know, might be like, huh, you know, maybe I need to, (29:37) to look into this more, talk to my doctor more about this. (29:41) Such a wonderful conversation with Amy.And I hope you're leaving this podcast with one (29:45) important reminder. If something feels hard to sustain, that doesn't automatically mean you (29:51) need to try harder. Maybe the better question is, what is making this hard? And how could I (29:56) make it easier? Maybe you need a simpler meal.Maybe you need food where you can actually (30:02) see it. Maybe you need movement, more consistent nourishment, fewer decisions, (30:06) or maybe you simply need support. Your health doesn't have to look perfect to support you.(30:12) And if you're craving a place where you can continue having conversations like this, (30:16) I'd love to have you inside my Healthy Ever After community. You'll find weekly body wisdom tips, (30:21) recipes, resources, and women who are leaning on each other and learning how to work with their (30:28) bodies too. The link to join us is in the show notes.I'll also link Amy's information there (30:33) so you can connect with her and learn more about her work. And if you enjoyed today's episode, (30:39) make sure you're subscribed, leave a review and share it with someone who might need this (30:43) conversation because healing doesn't come from doing more. It comes from understanding better.(30:47) I'm sending you so much love and I'll see you on the next episode of PCOS Unfiltered. (30:53) Nourish. Heal.Thrive.