What if the healthiest habits you build as a teenager could transform your hormones, confidence, and resilience for the rest of your life? In this episode of PCOS Unfiltered, I sit down with wellness coach Jen Brinsmade for part 2 of our conversation, to discuss how empowering teen girls with simple, sustainable habits can create a lifetime of better physical, emotional, and hormonal health. While our conversation focuses on teens, the lessons are just as valuable for women of any age navigating PCOS, insulin resistance, chronic stress, or simply trying to feel their best. Jen shares her holistic wellness framework, emphasizing the importance of positive self-talk, healthy communication, movement, nutrition, mindfulness, community, and living with intention. We also explore the fascinating science behind muscle contractions and "hope molecules," why strength training is so beneficial for hormone health and insulin resistance, and how doing hard things builds lasting confidence and resilience. Whether you're raising a daughter, supporting a young woman with PCOS, or working on your own health journey, this conversation is filled with practical, science-backed strategies that remind us true healing starts with consistent daily habits, not perfection.
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(0:00) That to me, and it's not weight training only, (0:03) it is contracting your muscles. (0:04) So it's dancing, walking, running. (0:06) I mean, anything that you do to contract your muscles, (0:09) create these molecules that go to your brain (0:11) that help balance out your hormones.(0:13) That to me is like mind blowing, mind blowing. (0:20) Welcome back to PCOS Unfiltered, (0:22) where we ditch the one size fits all advice. (0:25) I'm Lindsie, nurse turned health coach, (0:28) author of Healing Beyond the Diagnosis (0:29) and Body Wisdom Guide.(0:31) Here, I help you understand the messages (0:33) behind your symptoms. (0:35) Now, before we get into today's guest, (0:37) I wanted to remind you all (0:38) that the Healthy Ever After app is now live. (0:41) It is your one-stop shop for our community, (0:44) podcast resources, recipes, exclusive content.(0:47) And when you join, (0:48) you'll instantly receive my free summer sanity guide. (0:51) You can find the link to download on Apple or Android (0:54) in the show notes. (0:55) So today, my guest is Jen Brinsmade, (0:58) and Jen is passionate about empowering the next generation.(1:02) She is a wellness coach dedicated to helping teen girls (1:04) and young women embrace and embody optimal mind (1:07) and body health, resilience, and personal power.
(1:11) Starting her own wellness and personal growth journey (1:13) at 19, she has transformed her life, (1:15) allowing herself to cultivate deep self-awareness, (1:18) vibrant health, and a purposeful connection (1:20) to herself, to others, and nature. (1:23) By adopting proactive health and wellness habits (1:26) now to protect their mental and physical health, (1:29) she believes teen girls and young women (1:31) not only improve their current health and wellness, (1:34) but also lay the groundwork (1:35) for a thriving and fulfilling future.(1:38) As a lifelong learner, (1:39) Jen's approach is firmly rooted in science. (1:42) Through her empathetic and firm coaching, (1:44) she creates a safe, empowering environment (1:46) where teen girls and young women (1:48) can grow into the healthiest (1:49) and most confident versions of themselves. (1:53) As always, this podcast is intended (1:54) for educational and informational purposes only,
(1:57) and should not be considered medical advice.(1:59) Please consult your healthcare provider (2:01) before making any changes to your diet, (2:03) exercise, or treatment plan. (2:05) Now go ahead and settle in, (2:07) maybe get ready to take some notes, and let's dive in. (2:09) Here is my conversation with Jen Brinsmaid.(2:18) So I wanna hear more about this speak pillar. (2:21) Is that kind of what this, I don't know, (2:23) is this where we're going with this? (2:25) What does that really mean, you know, in your work? (2:28) In the speak pillar is about communication, right? (2:33) How you communicate with not just yourself, (2:37) but with others, right? (2:38) I mean, the teenager tends to, (2:41) and I have a teen and I also have a 23-year-old, (2:43) so I can speak to my experience. (2:47) You know, they say what they feel like saying, (2:50) and it is always nice or kind, I should say, (2:53) and teaching them how to communicate what you need, (2:58) because it's very important to not hold things inside,
(3:02) to not try to please everyone.(3:04) If something's going on that you need to communicate, (3:07) learn the proper way to do it, (3:10) just to help yourself be able to communicate (3:13) what's going on inside, (3:14) and stay connected to that other person, right? (3:18) You don't have to be so rude about something (3:21) if you're upset about it. (3:23) You can share, this is what's going on for me. (3:26) I just want you to know this is what's going on for me.(3:29) It's the speaking to others, (3:32) but it's also speaking to yourself, (3:35) because so much, you know, I teach them. (3:37) It starts here, right? (3:39) I just launched on Instagram, (3:40) and all week we're talking about the think habit, (3:43) because it all begins in your mind, (3:46) and so much of it is automatic, (3:49) and we don't even realize it's not us. (3:51) This voice that's telling us something.(3:55) It's our brain keeping us safe, right? (3:58) So when we learn that that is a habit (4:02) that just has happened over time, (4:05) how we can speak to ourselves in a kind way, (4:10) you know, because when we don't speak to ourselves, (4:12) our whole life unfolds, right, (4:14) in not necessarily a positive way, (4:17) and so, yeah, I just think that it is vital
(4:20) for this generation especially, (4:23) that they learn how to speak to themselves, (4:26) how to listen to their thoughts, (4:29) and question them, right, (4:32) and then how to use your words (4:35) in order for you to be able to communicate (4:37) and get your point across in a kind way. (4:42) Yeah, I love that. (4:46) So PCOS can feel really isolating, (4:50) especially, you know, for teenagers.(4:53) How does the connection, (4:54) how does connection as a pillar (4:56) actually support physical and hormonal well-being, (4:59) and not just emotional health? (5:01) Yeah, gosh, well, you know, again, like I said, (5:03) the connection to yourself, right, (5:05) listening, sitting in stillness. (5:08) You know, I teach the girls how to meditate, right, (5:10) because I can't tell you how many adults tell me, (5:13) oh, I've tried that, I can't do that. (5:14) I'm not, I can't shut my thoughts off, right? (5:17) It's not about that.(5:19) Because meditation's like this. (5:21) Thoughts come in, thank goodness, (5:23) that means your brain's working. (5:26) Learn how to just notice them and let them pass.(5:29) Right, I teach them, pretend like you're sitting on a rock (5:31) and you're watching this flowing river, (5:34) and there's leaves on the river.
(5:36) Your thoughts are on those leaves. (5:38) And oh, you notice, oh, there's a thought, (5:40) and let it go, it's flowing, you can't stop.(5:42) I mean, you could try to pick every single one up, (5:45) then you just feel like you're all over the place. (5:47) And just keep letting it flow through you, right? (5:50) Don't hold onto it. (5:52) So there's that, being able to sit in stillness (5:55) and connect to yourself.(5:57) Also, not judge yourself (6:00) because you have this condition of PCOS, (6:03) and also learning that there are so many things (6:06) that you can do, so many habits that you can create (6:10) that will help manage your symptoms in a very powerful way. (6:16) And then, I didn't really have a chance (6:19) to talk about it yet, (6:20) but I have the Peace and Power Habits Collective, (6:23) and it's an online community. (6:26) And this is a space where girls get a chance (6:29) to connect with one another.(6:31) And so my whole vision, I just launched it last month, (6:37) is they're learning. (6:38) So they're learning through videos, (6:40) they're learning all the different pillars. (6:42) I have something called Becoming Her, (6:44) which is where they begin, (6:45) and it really teaches them the foundations, (6:48) how to build confidence, (6:50) how to question your thoughts, (6:52) excuse me, things like that.(6:55) And then, we'd have a coaching call once a month on Zoom, (6:59) and we dive deeper into those pillars. (7:02) But the girls always have access to the community, (7:05) so they can talk to one another, (7:07) they can ask me questions.
(7:09) I have guided meditations there.(7:11) I also do what I call the daily pep talks, (7:13) which is anywhere from three to seven minutes (7:17) of motivation for the day. (7:19) Oh, cool. (7:20) Because it's something that I've, (7:22) personal development has been something (7:24) that I've been on this path since I was in my 20s, (7:27) reading books, learning from mentors.(7:30) And I listen every single day, (7:31) and there's so many things I'm like, (7:33) oh, I forgot that, right? (7:35) So I want the younger generation to get (7:38) that intentionally becoming a better version of yourself, (7:43) not that you're not perfect exactly as you are, (7:45) because we all are, (7:47) but we can always improve on who we are (7:50) and how we become, right, in the world, (7:53) how we show up for others, (7:55) how we show up not just for ourselves. (7:57) Like if you look at my logo, (8:01) it's a drop of water with three rings, right?
(8:04) And it's very intentional. (8:05) The girl is the drop of water.(8:07) And so my belief is that when they do the work on themselves (8:11) that first ring is they do that work on themselves (8:15) and they work on their healthy habits, (8:19) they are going to impact their family and their friends. (8:22) The second ring is their community. (8:25) The third ring is the world.(8:26) Like they will show up so differently (8:29) and how they show up will positively impact other people. (8:33) People will want what they have and it's work. (8:38) I mean, it's not, you know, it's not, (8:40) it's simple, like I said, (8:41) it's not easy to do the work on yourself regularly.(8:45) Most people just want to say, this is who I am, (8:46) but it's a growth mindset. (8:49) It's not a fixed mindset. (8:51) Yeah, and so getting back to what you asked (8:53) is being part of a community.(8:55) These aren't girls necessarily with PCOS, (8:58) but in that community, (8:59) if that's something that they're going through, (9:01) they can chat with other girls about it. (9:03) They can chat with me about it and not feel alone. (9:07) You know, going to social media and scrolling (9:09) and watching other people, right? (9:12) That comparison that sets in on, (9:15) I mean, listen, we all do it, right?
(9:17) The teenage brain, (9:18) especially with not being fully developed yet.(9:21) You know, just to be able to have a space (9:24) where they feel seen and heard and supported. (9:27) Yeah, yeah. (9:28) Oh, I love that.(9:31) The movement, like I feel like, (9:34) especially for women with PCOS, this comes, (9:37) you know, I get asked this about movement. (9:40) You know, what kind of exercise should I do? (9:42) What's best? (9:43) You know, all this. (9:44) Well, first of all, yes, I call it movement myself.(9:47) I don't say exercise anymore (9:49) because I feel like I've been guilty of that with, (9:52) you know, I can go, even if I've been in training mode (9:54) and I can go run for like two hours, (9:56) but then if I'm on the couch the rest of the day, (9:58) I'm like, what did I do? (10:01) You know, but I always, I mean, (10:03) I'm interested to hear what you say (10:04) because I always tell people, (10:05) I'm like, the best workout you can do (10:06) is the one you enjoy, you know? (10:09) So whether it's, you know, strength,
(10:12) I do believe strength training has a purpose. (10:14) There's cardio has a purpose, (10:15) but truly I think you need to kind of find (10:18) what you, you know, enjoy as well (10:22) and just do it and move your body. (10:23) And yeah, so what does that pillar look like? (10:28) You know, for- (10:31) Well, I agree with you, Lindsay.(10:32) I mean, I do think that is movement, you know, (10:34) especially coming back to devices. (10:37) I mean, sitting and scrolling is not gonna help your body (10:42) be the healthiest version of itself, right? (10:46) So I agree, it's moving your body to what you love, (10:50) whether it's dance, walking, you know, paddleboarding, (10:55) riding your bike, like just be an active human (10:58) and learn and, you know, I do teach them (11:01) how to be more intentional about their use of their devices (11:06) because I think that it's so important for them (11:08) to be able to, you know, it's not going away. (11:11) So we have to learn how to have the habits around it (11:15) that we don't just spend hours on end (11:17) because what happens? (11:19) Hours on end, it takes away from hours of our life (11:22) doing other things that really bring joy to us, right? (11:26) That really create a life well-lived, you know,
(11:29) connection with our family, with our friends.(11:33) And it's not the same, like I told them, (11:34) it's not the same connection as when you're Snapchatting, (11:39) right, if you're face-to-face with someone, (11:41) making eye contact is not the same. (11:44) But coming back to the movement, yeah, there are, (11:47) I do think that I highly encourage the girls (11:52) to strength train because, you know, (11:56) especially if you have PCOS, (11:58) just how it helps balance out your hormones, (12:03) it directly impacts your insulin resistance, which is huge. (12:08) You know, and there's something that they've learned, (12:11) scientists have learned through studies (12:13) just by contracting the muscles, (12:15) being able to generate what they call hope molecules, (12:20) right, that help reduce depression.(12:22) I mean, that to me, and it's not weight training only, (12:26) it is contracting your muscles, (12:28) so it's dancing, walking, running, (12:30) I mean, anything that you do to contract your muscles,
(12:33) create these molecules that go to your brain (12:35) that help balance out your hormones, (12:37) that to me is like mind-blowing, mind-blowing. (12:42) And more people need to know about that (12:44) than how they say that exercise (12:47) is the most underutilized antidepressant. (12:51) And I understand just through some of my research (12:54) that depression is an issue for young women (12:58) and women with PCOS, (13:00) and so what a beautiful way to counterbalance that (13:04) by utilizing your own body chemistry, right? (13:08) It's like mind-blowing, it is mind-blowing.(13:11) So yeah, so weight training to me is, (13:15) and it doesn't have to be you go in to the gym (13:18) and pump iron with all the gym bros (13:20) if you feel uncomfortable with that, right? (13:22) I've been doing it a long time, (13:23) I got over my embarrassment, fear, (13:25) or whatever you wanna call it, (13:27) because none of my friends would go with me (13:29) and I wanted it, I don't know why (13:30) I started training with my brother in the basement (13:33) with just a few weights, right? (13:35) Well, I was a very, very, very thin teenager, (13:38) and I was like, I gotta do something to change this (13:40) because I just had long limbs and long legs, (13:43) and in my mind, it was more vanity, (13:47) it's not that any longer, (13:49) but well, maybe, I like having muscles, (13:52) but you know, but it's not a requirement, right?
(13:55) It is just the power that you feel (13:58) within yourself and that confidence (14:01) every time you do something hard, (14:03) and I teach the girls that too, do hard things, (14:07) because to me, as you learn to do hard things, (14:11) it's that confidence loop, right? (14:14) Every time you do something hard (14:16) and you realize that you survived from it (14:19) because you may have been afraid of it, (14:21) but then you did it anyway, you pushed yourself through it, (14:24) and then you realize, oh, I handled that, you do it again. (14:28) You become this level of confidence within yourself (14:31) that you can apply to so many other areas of your life, (14:34) and I truly feel like a lot of my confidence (14:37) through the years was built lifting weights and in the gym, (14:41) because I was doing hard things, and I still do. (14:43) And it's a great feeling to know your body's capability.(14:48) Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean, it made me think, (14:51) because I was, as I mentioned, (14:53) I was up in Michigan with my family, (14:54) and I have two little nieces (14:55) that I just love spending time with up there, (14:59) and I've been strength training more myself lately, (15:02) just been kind of in that phase, loving it, (15:05) but feeling stronger,
(15:07) but I'm picking up my 55-pound niece. (15:11) I was bench-pressing my younger niece, (15:14) who'll be three next month. (15:15) She's, I don't know, probably 30 pounds or something, (15:18) and I'm like, and she's just laughing the whole time, (15:21) but to me, though, it's the quality, too, (15:25) the quality of life and just being able to move with them, (15:29) and I'm not just sitting there watching them play (15:34) or just talking to them.(15:35) I'm actually in it, and I'm having fun with them (15:38) and able to do that, too, (15:39) and I think strength training, whatever it is, (15:42) just movement in general helps improve the quality. (15:47) Absolutely, and to me, it's like, like I said earlier, (15:51) you get one life. (15:53) Why put yourself in a position (15:56) to age before you need to age, right? (15:59) Obviously, we're all aging chronologically, (16:02) but when you do have these habits, (16:05) and it's been my experience, right? (16:07) I mean, it's not necessarily for everyone, (16:10) but I truly believe even if it's a portion of those habits, (16:14) it will help you live your life in a much, (16:18) just in a capacity that just feels aligned with health, (16:23) right, and it's strength.(16:25) Like, to me, it's like why, you know, (16:27) they say don't let the old man in (16:28) or don't let the old lady in. (16:30) Do what you can to take good care of yourself. (16:34) Move your joints.(16:35) Like, I hear people say, well, I'm not flexible.
(16:36) Well, you can get flexibility. (16:39) You just have to practice at it, right? (16:41) The mobility training is so essential as we age, right? (16:45) To be able to move your body in multiple ways (16:51) and have experiences like you did, right? (16:54) Just to be able to do something like that.(16:57) I mean, I wouldn't recommend bench pressing your knees (17:00) all the time, but you're able to do it. (17:03) You're able to do it. (17:05) And why put yourself into position before true age sets in? (17:11) But then again, it's like, what does that mean, right? (17:14) I mean, at the gym, I have, (17:16) one of my best gym friends is Jerry, and Jerry's 85.(17:22) That guy, I told him, you are my idol. (17:26) He spins every day. (17:28) He's in the gym, and he's so cute.(17:29) He says to me, all right, Jen, what's that exercise? (17:32) What's it doing? (17:32) Can you show me how to do that? (17:33) All right, I'm gonna add that one, you know? (17:36) And I told him, I said, you were my idol. (17:38) I said to me, I wanna be you when I'm 85.
(17:41) Yeah, and it's just, again, (17:43) when you learn those habits young, (17:45) stay consistent with them, (17:48) and finding what works for you, (17:51) enjoying movement of your body, (17:53) not seeing it as a punishment.(17:55) Moving your body is, to me, it is, what's the word? (18:03) I mean, it is, I don't wanna say it's a responsibility, (18:07) but to me, it's something that we are, (18:11) we're benefiting from it, right? (18:13) The word's not coming to me. (18:14) I'm having a senior moment, but again, (18:16) it's just all of the benefits that you get (18:18) from moving your body over time. (18:21) You know, that age that you will have, (18:24) the chronological age, more than likely, (18:26) is not gonna be what you actually feel like.(18:29) At 56, I'm not sure what that's supposed to feel like, (18:31) but I do know I'm 56. (18:35) Yeah, and I'm the same way. (18:36) Like I said, I'll be 44 this year, (18:38) and yeah, so the fact that I can do all that stuff (18:40) and still run around with them all day is amazing to me, (18:44) and I'm not defined by that number.(18:46) I feel like I'm limited by that number, so yeah. (18:49) Yeah, and you know what happens, typically, (18:52) is as we age, we're chasing comfort, right?
(18:58) And that's why I feel that teaching young women (19:01) how to do hard things now and see (19:04) that they can build that confidence (19:06) and believe in themselves throughout their life, (19:09) they won't be afraid to do hard things. (19:11) Like I have a cold plunge, (19:13) and so at the end of my teen empowerment group, (19:17) we cold plunge, right? (19:18) It's set at 56 degrees.(19:20) It's cold, but it's not terrible. (19:23) And what I teach them, yes, (19:25) there's so many physical benefits, (19:26) but the mental benefit, right? (19:29) Understanding that you can say, (19:31) oh no, I'm not getting in that water. (19:32) I do not like cold water.(19:34) Oh, I'm not gonna do that. (19:36) Teaching them some mental tools, (19:39) teaching them some breathing techniques, (19:41) how to climatize their body, (19:42) and then slowly lowering themselves (19:44) into what they thought that they could never do, (19:48) they wake up to the belief in themselves (19:51) that yeah, I made that up. (19:53) My brain made that up to keep me safe, (19:55) and now I realize that I can overpower it
(19:58) with the way I choose to think.(20:01) It's a choice. (20:02) And then on the other side, (20:03) I always tell them, (20:04) on the other side of that fear is freedom. (20:07) And then when you can see that you did that, (20:10) apply that to the rest of your life.(20:13) I love that. (20:15) So as we kind of start to wrap up, (20:17) we've got two more to go, (20:19) which Restore, you kind of touched on already, (20:21) but what does live represent in your framework? (20:26) You know, live is, again, (20:27) I think the live pillar (20:29) is just consistently having habits (20:33) that support mind and body health, (20:35) and also doing the work to know what brings you joy. (20:41) What, you know, purpose.(20:42) What does purpose mean, right? (20:44) To me, purpose is, it changes throughout your life. (20:48) My purpose when my kids were little (20:50) was being the best mom that I could possibly be. (20:53) That was important to me.(20:55) Now that they're older, (20:56) I've shifted my purpose. (20:58) It's always gonna be a mom, (21:00) but my purpose now is to share my wisdom (21:04) with the younger generation, right? (21:06) That's what I believe my purpose to be. (21:08) And just teaching young women
(21:10) that they don't have to have it all figured out, (21:14) but living your life, (21:16) and living it mindfully, (21:18) like feeling your days.(21:21) Notice the beauty of the blue sky. (21:24) Listen to the birds outside, right? (21:27) Sit and listen to, you know, at dinner. (21:30) Make eye contact with your family members.(21:33) All of those things are part of living. (21:35) It's living intentionally and mindfully, (21:38) and not getting so stuck up in your head (21:41) and worrying about so-and-so (21:43) what they snapped you just a moment ago, right? (21:45) Like be present to your moments, (21:48) because I always share with them, (21:49) your moments are all you have. (21:51) What happened in the past is just that.(21:54) What's happening in the future, (21:56) you still have no idea. (21:57) You only have this moment. (21:59) And how are you going to live this moment? (22:01) It's up to you.
(22:02) Yeah, love that. (22:06) So for someone that, you know, (22:08) for a woman, young woman, (22:10) maybe they've been diagnosed with PCOS. (22:12) Maybe they feel like something's off, (22:14) something's going on.(22:15) They're starting to just feel overwhelmed. (22:17) Where in those eight pillars (22:18) would you recommend somebody to start? (22:24) I think it's the diet. (22:25) It's the eat pillar.(22:27) It's, you know, learning how to eat foods (22:30) that are going to feed your cells, (22:33) are going to help your hormones balance out. (22:36) You know, again, with PCOS, (22:38) I know there's issues with skin health, (22:41) the micronutrients from fruits and vegetables. (22:44) Most people don't eat even half (22:47) of what they should be eating, right? (22:49) Being able to consume it (22:51) and then balancing it out with some supplements.(22:53) I mean, I don't know if you've ever heard of Juice Plus, (22:55) but Juice Plus is fruits and vegetables, (22:58) capsules, gummies, like supplying, you know, (23:01) just filling in those gaps with things like that (23:04) or a multivitamin that comes from whole foods. (23:08) Yeah, I think that that, to me, (23:10) that's where I would start.
(23:11) And keeping it simple.(23:15) Yes, you can go and get inspired on Pinterest or Instagram (23:18) with all the millions of recipes out there, (23:21) but what will you do? (23:22) Like, you know, focus on those macronutrients (23:26) and how to get the proper amount in your body (23:29) in order for your body to thrive. (23:31) Yeah, yeah, love it. (23:34) So last question, (23:35) how can anybody find you and connect with you? (23:38) I'll link everything the show notes, (23:39) but still, I want you to let everybody know.(23:43) Yeah, so peaceandpowerhabits.com is my website. (23:47) I just launched for my focus on teens on Instagram. (23:52) It's peaceandpower underscore Jen.(23:56) Yeah, and so those two areas are where I am. (24:00) I'm launching on LinkedIn. (24:01) You know, I'm just now kind of going out (24:03) to all the socials, but yeah, (24:06) I mean, being able to reach out to me on Instagram (24:08) probably would be the easiest way.(24:11) There's also on my website, you can book as a parent, (24:15) you can book a free discovery call with me (24:18) just to learn about all of the things that I offer, (24:22) whether it's the in-person event, I'm in Austin, Texas, (24:26) or the online community, (24:28) how that can help support their daughter (24:31) to just be able to learn (24:34) how to take the best care of themselves.
(24:37) You know, like I said to you, (24:40) parents of teenagers oftentimes need guides. (24:45) They need other people.(24:46) It takes a village because, you know, (24:48) part of what they're learning to do (24:50) is to separate from their parents (24:52) and they oftentimes don't listen to them (24:54) in the most vital years, right? (24:56) So having someone like Jen, right? (24:59) Jen, who is not your mom. (25:00) I am a mom, but I am not their mom. (25:03) They hear me differently, right? (25:05) And I don't, I'm a coach.(25:07) So I'm also paid to push. (25:09) I don't take you know what from them. (25:12) When they're making excuses, right? (25:14) If we have grow work to do and they don't get it done, (25:17) I'll listen to their excuse (25:18) and then I'll bring them back to (25:19) that higher version of themselves (25:21) that will be integrates, right? (25:24) Will do what they said they would do.
(25:26) Yeah, love that. (25:28) Awesome, oh my gosh. (25:29) Well, thank you so much for joining me.(25:31) Oh, you're welcome. (25:32) This is fun. (25:33) Yes, thank you, thank you.(25:35) And yeah, we'll see you next time. (25:38) Thanks Lindsay. (25:41) That was such an amazing conversation with Jen.(25:43) I'll be sure to link everything in the show notes (25:45) if you'd like to connect with her. (25:48) Now, if you're enjoying the podcast, (25:49) come join us inside the Healthy Ever After app. (25:52) It's where we continue the conversation with community, (25:54) recipes, resources, and exclusive content.(25:57) Plus you'll get my free summer sanity guide (25:59) just for joining. (26:00) The link is in the show notes for you. (26:02) And if you love this episode, (26:04) make sure to subscribe, leave a review (26:05) and share it with someone who needs to hear it.(26:08) Because healing doesn't come from doing more. (26:10) It comes from understanding better. (26:12) I'm sending you so much love (26:13) and I'll see you on the next episode of PCOS Unfiltered.(26:17) Nourish, heal, thrive.